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Musicrab

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:25 am
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Just tried the demo of this on PC and, while 3rd person action games aren't
my favourite, this looks like a rare bit of action quality on PC.
What normally puts me off straight away with multi-platform games is that
the controls are horrible on the PC. But the controls here were no problem
at all. If it was purely a fighting game I'd have given up straight away
but there appear to be other elements to the game - stealth, silent kills,
puzzles. And the character animation,voicing is top class.
Not out (in uk) until 18 September.
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Kory

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:03 am
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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:52:04 +0100, "Musicrab"
wrote:

>Just tried the demo of this on PC and, while 3rd person action games aren't
>my favourite, this looks like a rare bit of action quality on PC.
>What normally puts me off straight away with multi-platform games is that
>the controls are horrible on the PC. But the controls here were no problem
>at all. If it was purely a fighting game I'd have given up straight away
>but there appear to be other elements to the game - stealth, silent kills,
>puzzles. And the character animation,voicing is top class.
>Not out (in uk) until 18 September.

I too am put off by many of the action games that are multi-platform.
Even though mouse+keyboard works fine with most of them in the sense
that there is nothing restricting you from binding controls to a
keyboard key, in some games you get a sense that you're not playing
the game the way it's meant to be played.

The answer is to get a 360 controller for the PC.. in fact, after you
do, go back and load up some old multi-platform games that didn't
appeal to you the first time around and see if you like them better.
Before I got the 360 controller, I foolishly thought a gamepad was
pretty much a gamepad..I would plug in the trusty Logitech Dual
Action, which I always liked the overall feel of, but many games still
felt wrong and it was hard to put my finger on why.

I finally ended up getting a 360 controller to play GTA IV. The 360
was a must-have there, because of the index-finger throttle controls
which my existing game pad only had buttons for (always fully on or
off doesn't make for a very realistic car throttle and makes it harder
to control). I started seeing what I had been missing in other games.

Part of it may be that the games just feel "well-calibrated" for the
360 controller with no tweaking required.

Don't get me wrong, for first-person games the mouse and keyboard is
ar superior. There are some shooters that "work fine" with the 360
that I'm simply unwilling to give up the finer aiming control of the
mouse for. But for 3rd person action games and button mashers there
is definately something to be said for sitting back in the chair with
a wireless controller, especially when it's the exact controller the
game was designed for. Plus, if you've got a reasonably recent PC and
good video card, you've basically got a way better Xbox than the Xbox.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:05 am
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:25 am
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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:52:04 +0100, "Musicrab"
wrote:

>Just tried the demo of this on PC and, while 3rd person action games aren't
>my favourite, this looks like a rare bit of action quality on PC.
>What normally puts me off straight away with multi-platform games is that
>the controls are horrible on the PC. But the controls here were no problem
>at all. If it was purely a fighting game I'd have given up straight away
>but there appear to be other elements to the game - stealth, silent kills,
>puzzles. And the character animation,voicing is top class.
>Not out (in uk) until 18 September.

Already out on the consoles - I spent about 8 hours on the 360 version
last night. Smile

Fantastic game - if your PC can handle the demo OK, it's well worth
getting. If not, buy a 360 or PS3. Smile
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:22 am
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:25 am
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Tx, best argument yet I've heard to avoid a game like the plague! Smile

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:25 am
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Kory writes:

> I finally ended up getting a 360 controller to play GTA IV. The 360
> was a must-have there, because of the index-finger throttle controls
> which my existing game pad only had buttons for (always fully on or
> off doesn't make for a very realistic car throttle and makes it harder
> to control). I started seeing what I had been missing in other games.

I find that odd. I played GTA4 with on the 360 first and always
wondered why they wasted the analog triggers. Throttle response is so
slow that it doesn't matter at all whether you have analog triggers
digital buttons for throttle.

Therefore, I have absolutely no problem playing GTA4 on the PC with my
old Saitek P2500 which has only digital buttons. And no tweaking
required. Well, except for controlling the helicopter, rudder doesn't
work at all although everything else does, go figure. Don't really
need rudder to steer the heli though.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:50 am
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> ...The answer is to get a 360 controller for the PC...

I'm a mature gamer who never got into consoles...so I hate gamepad type
controllers. This is one reason, I guess, why I tend to struggle with
cross-platform games that appear on the PC. This batman game looks like one
of the better "conversions".
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:50 am
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:51 pm
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:23:33 +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:

>Kory writes:
>
>> I finally ended up getting a 360 controller to play GTA IV. The 360
>> was a must-have there, because of the index-finger throttle controls
>> which my existing game pad only had buttons for (always fully on or
>> off doesn't make for a very realistic car throttle and makes it harder
>> to control). I started seeing what I had been missing in other games.
>
>I find that odd. I played GTA4 with on the 360 first and always
>wondered why they wasted the analog triggers. Throttle response is so
>slow that it doesn't matter at all whether you have analog triggers
>digital buttons for throttle.
>
>Therefore, I have absolutely no problem playing GTA4 on the PC with my
>old Saitek P2500 which has only digital buttons.

Maybe it comes down to a matter of preference. To me, in any game
that involves driving as one aspect of movement (as opposed to a
racing game where youre driving the whole time) benefits from analog
throttle. The alternative involves either running the car wide open
(you're gonna crash and burn a lot in GTAIV if you do that), or simply
pumping the button (or key) to achieve a steady speed. That's what I
did in the previous GTA games, which I played only with mouse and
keyboard, and it can be done... but its not as much fun as the analog
triggers. I really cant comment on how the xbox version of the game
feels regarding throttle. In the PC if you pull the trigger all the
way in, its the same as if you just held a digital button down.

I am just going to speak my mind on this subject and let it rest,
because a year ago if any of you told me how much more I would enjoy
some of these multi-platform games if I had a 360 controller, I
wouldn't have "got it" either. It's something I realized only after I
started using it. I used to play GRID with my Logitech Dual Action,
using the right analog stick for throttle... it will work well enough
if you get used to it, but its infinitely better with the 360
controller. Also the 360 controller quality feels orders of magnitude
better than any of the Logitech / Gravis stuff I've had.. I still
prefer Logitech mice to Microsofts.

One of these days I am going to load Assassins Creed back up (I bought
it before I had the 360 controller and didn't care for playing it with
mouse and keyboard), just to see if I can get into it more playing it
as it was meant to be played.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:37 pm
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:50:35 -0700, Beezer
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>On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:07:39 -0400, Kory wrote:
>
>
>>
>>It's a little hard to explain what I mean about the 360 controller
>>(with certain games) until you try it and compare to the other
>>controllers side by side. I didn't understand either when I used to
>>use my other gamepads well enough.
>
>Didn't comment on this before, srry.
>
>I used to have 360 and did use 360 gamepad on the PC. It's the best
>gamepad out there but I traded my 360 to a freind for his PS3 because
>I wanted the BluRay so no more 360 gamepad. I should maybe buy one for
>just the PC becuase it is a good. Problem is that some older games
>don't recognize it. Ever time I loaded up WininEleven8 the game would
>lock up and it was caused by the 360 gamepad for some reason. Weird.

Yeah the qualities that I'm describing in the 360 controller really
only apply to new games (last 2-3 years) that are labelled "Games for
Windows"... those are the ones that seem to be "perfectly laid out"
and calibrated for the controller out of the box, just plug and go.

Good to have a dual action or something near by if you play older
games with the gamepad.. I just never did much so I gave my dual
action away.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:05 pm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:40 am
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:05:57 -0700, Beezer
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>On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:35:42 -0400, Kory wrote:
>
>
>>Games like GRID play well enough with the 360 controller and thats
>>about as far into the racing genre as I care to go.
>
>OK, Grid is a different kind of racing game compared to the likes of
>rFactor and GTR2. In those games a gamepad would mnake for a very
>frustrating drive because you would just crash way too much in them.
>Grid is more forgiving.

Yep, understood, GRID is a driving game and not a racing sim, wasn't
suggesting a 360 pad would be good for those, only that it's good for
any game that is multiplatform... meaning if its a driving or flying
game you see on the xbox or ps3, it will work better with the 360
controller on the PC than anything else.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:54 am
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:23 am
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Musicrab wrote:
> Just tried the demo of this on PC and, while 3rd person action games aren't
> my favourite, this looks like a rare bit of action quality on PC.

This. Game. Is. Awesome.

Last Friday I was shopping for movie DVDs and picked up three games:
Batman AA, Red Faction: Guerrilla, and Resident Evil 5. I installed all
three and played the first 15 to 20 minutes of each.

Then I focussed on playing Batman.

I'm sure Red Faction gets better but so far ... I seem to be a
terrifying ... building demolition specialist. How exciting. My first
experience with Resident Evil is from standing in the arcade with the
plastic guns. This 5th version seems pretty good and the partner is hot.
Meow.

But Batman ... I played for several hours over the weekend and couldn't
stop. The fighting is very good but the stealthy take-downs (inverted is
my favourite) and detectiving and gadgetry is great. You have to think
to solve the challenges and it hasn't been repetitive at all.

The graphics and sounds are unbelievable. The experience is immersive.
As a fan of the comics from childhood, I am a very satisfied customer.
This is the dark knight.


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