(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:07 pm
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:21:12 +0000, Keith Davies
wrote:
>Loren Pechtel wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:20:37 +0000, Keith Davies
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Lots of branches and stuff, and we've been clearing property for the
>>>last few years.
>>
>> 1/6 of an acre here, nothing to clear!
>
>5 acres here, but we're just about the maintenance-only part. Most of
>it's cleared and has grass growing on it, with a fair scattering of
>trees of various sorts. A lot of it looks pretty parklike, actually.
>
>So, cut the grass, prune the fruit trees and shrubbery, we're mostly
>done.
We don't even own grass-cutting implements. It's entirely trees as a
few bushes with the rest of the ground covered by rock. The law
doesn't even permit more than IIRC 40% lawn here--water supply
problems.
>>>>>Trees? Pick what's in reach, shake the rest down. We keep our
>>>>>trees pruned to about 12' high for a reason.
>>>>
>>>> That's not conductive to getting fruit that will last.
>>>
>>>'last'? What is this 'last' you speak of?
>>>
>>>Most of it gets processed or given away within a week or so.
>>
>> My wife likes it best just as it comes off the tree. When the only
>> fruit eater is 100# the 3-4 hundred pounds of fruit we get do stay
>> around a while. It only gets given away if it's more than she can
>> eat.
>
>Our apple trees come into fruit about a month apart, it seems, and we
>don't have that many. Some gets preserved, most gets eaten, some gets
>given away. We haven't had to do that very much, though.
I wish our apricots did that. It's less than two weeks from the start
of harvest to the end.
I see what you mentioned about shaking them down--apples are a lot
more robust than the stuff we grow here. Even plants with only a
400-hour chilling requirement occasionally don't set properly here and
anything beyond that is out of the question.
(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:07 pm
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:58:44 -0400, Tetsubo
wrote:
>David Lamb wrote:
>
>> Peter Knutsen wrote:
>>
>>> Baird Stafford wrote:
>>>
>>>> Depends on the DM's definition of "damage," in my view. If the
>>>> definition in use is, "anything that breaks the skin" then no, insect
>>>> bites and the like (except those from swarms, of course) would be
>>>
>>>
>>> Why exclude swarms? That's not realsitic!
>>>
>>> A swarm doesn't actually do 2+ damage ever, it does several instances
>>> of damage *each* worth 1 HP. Even DR 1/- ought to protect against that.
>>
>>
>> In reality something with tough enough skin to be essentially immune to
>> insect bites would still be vulnerable at the eyes, inside the nostrils,
>> inside an opened mouth... none of which are represented directly in
>> D&D. I'd be inclined to leave swarms as Baird suggested.
>
> I wouldn't have low DR effect swarms either. High innate DR yes.
I would simply treat it as a single attack and apply DR normally.
(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:44 am
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:52:43 +0000, Keith Davies
wrote:
>Whereas I can't make it go away. We cleared an acre or two two summers
>ago, didn't see it at all, and it's full of grass. I don't water any of
>the grass, and other things when initially seeded/planted, or if it
>really, really needs it. I'm of the mind that if it can't survive on
>what we get naturally, it shouldn't be here.
Not much of an option in a place with 4" of annual rainfall.
>>>Our apple trees come into fruit about a month apart, it seems, and we
>>>don't have that many. Some gets preserved, most gets eaten, some gets
>>>given away. We haven't had to do that very much, though.
>>
>> I wish our apricots did that. It's less than two weeks from the start
>> of harvest to the end.
>>
>> I see what you mentioned about shaking them down--apples are a lot
>> more robust than the stuff we grow here. Even plants with only a
>> 400-hour chilling requirement occasionally don't set properly here and
>> anything beyond that is out of the question.
>
>What is '400-hour chilling requirement'?
Yeah, you're in a cold enough place you don't even know about such
ratings.
Many decidious fruit trees need a certain number of hours of
temperature below IIRC 36 degrees in order to go into full dormancy
and fruit properly the next year. In cold climates nobody ever looks
at such things but in warm climates we do--it controls what we can
plant and expect to get fruit off of.
A tree with too high a chilling requirement would grow here but
produce little if any fruit.
(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:20 pm
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:17:43 +0000, Keith Davies
wrote:
>Loren Pechtel wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:52:43 +0000, Keith Davies
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Whereas I can't make it go away. We cleared an acre or two two summers
>>>ago, didn't see it at all, and it's full of grass. I don't water any of
>>>the grass, and other things when initially seeded/planted, or if it
>>>really, really needs it. I'm of the mind that if it can't survive on
>>>what we get naturally, it shouldn't be here.
>>
>> Not much of an option in a place with 4" of annual rainfall.
>
>We can get that in a day or two at times, so... yeah.
Yeah, we live in very different climates.
>Ah. Yeah, no problem here. Last year we had snow on the ground for
>about three months. It didn't snow every day or anything, it just
>*would* *not* *melt*.
Snow is something that happens once every few years--and normally only
sticks to things like plants.
IIRC it was 2" of snow that shut down our airport--because we have no
de-icing equipment. There are a few snow plows around for the
mountain passes around.
>This is really unusual here; normally snow's gone after a week, tops.
I don't think it's ever lasted more than 24 hours here.
(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:25 am
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:24:48 -0400, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> Loren Pechtel wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:15:27 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
>> wrote:
>>> Plants like that need to be pruned with fire.
>>
>> Actually they have their uses. They were very effective at keeping
>> the neighborhood kids out of our back yard.
>
> Yes, but flamethrowers would accomplish THAT too!
However, spiky plants don't lead to quite as many conversations with the
local constabulary.
(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:36 am
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Rick Pikul wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:24:48 -0400, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
>
>> Loren Pechtel wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:15:27 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
>>> wrote:
>
>>>> Plants like that need to be pruned with fire.
>>> Actually they have their uses. They were very effective at keeping
>>> the neighborhood kids out of our back yard.
>> Yes, but flamethrowers would accomplish THAT too!
>
> However, spiky plants don't lead to quite as many conversations with the
> local constabulary.
>
(Msg. 22) Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:25 am
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:36:23 -0400, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> Rick Pikul wrote:
>> However, spiky plants don't lead to quite as many conversations with the
>> local constabulary.
>>
>
> Then you've got the wrong spiky plants!
Passive defenses always result in fewer conversations, simply based on the
intruders having done it to themselves. That the defense is your
shrubbery reduces the conversations even further.
(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:01 am
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Rick Pikul wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:36:23 -0400, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
>
>> Rick Pikul wrote:
>>> However, spiky plants don't lead to quite as many conversations with the
>>> local constabulary.
>>>
>> Then you've got the wrong spiky plants!
>
> Passive defenses always result in fewer conversations,
"Passive". As I said, then you've got the wrong spiky plants!
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