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Angus Manwaring

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:25 pm
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Hi.

I'm new to the pc and by the sound of it, the Il 2 games are excellent, so
I thought I'd give it a try.

A question, is the 1946 edition basically the original with lots of
follow-ups included, or have they refined the engine, detail levels etc?

I assume as a beginner the 1946 edition is the one to go for though?


And is landing as tricky as in the original Falcon? Smile




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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:14 pm
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Angus - 1946 is an excellent WWII sim, the best out there right now
for both online (actually for online it is heads and shoulders above
ANY other WWII sim IMO) and offline. On full realism it isn't easy and
in some ways can compare to F4. For online get a copy of Hyperlobby or
find one of the many online squadrons out there. They welcome
beginners and will help you over the hump.

Enjoy!
G

>On 1 Sep 2009 19:29:43 +0000, "Angus Manwaring" wrote:
>Hi.
>I'm new to the pc and by the sound of it, the Il 2 games are excellent, so
>I thought I'd give it a try.
>A question, is the 1946 edition basically the original with lots of
>follow-ups included, or have they refined the engine, detail levels etc?
>I assume as a beginner the 1946 edition is the one to go for though?
>And is landing as tricky as in the original Falcon? Smile
> All the best,
> Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)
>
>I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:25 pm
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It's an enhanced engine from the original IL-2.

When 'IL-2 Forgotten Battles' came out, it came with an updated graphics
engine from the original IL-2.

IL-2 1946 is basically IL-2 Forgotten Battles + all the addons released
since then. It's the definate edition, as long as you patch it up to
version 4.08. Version 4.09 is being worked on and will be released when
it is read. The patches also includes new stuff like multiplayer maps
and flyable airplanes.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:25 pm
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:49:25 +0200, oysteint.RemoveThis@ifi.uio.no
(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8ystein?= Tvedten) wrote:

>
>It's an enhanced engine from the original IL-2.
>
>When 'IL-2 Forgotten Battles' came out, it came with an updated graphics
>engine from the original IL-2.
>
>IL-2 1946 is basically IL-2 Forgotten Battles + all the addons released
>since then. It's the definate edition, as long as you patch it up to
>version 4.08. Version 4.09 is being worked on and will be released when
>it is read. The patches also includes new stuff like multiplayer maps
>and flyable airplanes.
>

Also included is Pacific Fighters. Speaking about landing....landing
on an aircraft carrier at night with heavy crosswind and rain with a
damaged airplane is a piece of cake...honest! Smile

Cheers!

Remco
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Angus Manwaring

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:25 pm
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On 02-Sep-09 22:02:25, Remco Moedt said
>On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:49:25 +0200, oysteint.TakeThisOut@ifi.uio.no
>(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8ystein?= Tvedten) wrote:

>>
>>It's an enhanced engine from the original IL-2.
>>
>>When 'IL-2 Forgotten Battles' came out, it came with an updated graphics
>>engine from the original IL-2.
>>
>>IL-2 1946 is basically IL-2 Forgotten Battles + all the addons released
>>since then. It's the definate edition, as long as you patch it up to
>>version 4.08. Version 4.09 is being worked on and will be released when
>>it is read. The patches also includes new stuff like multiplayer maps
>>and flyable airplanes.
>>

>Also included is Pacific Fighters. Speaking about landing....landing
>on an aircraft carrier at night with heavy crosswind and rain with a
>damaged airplane is a piece of cake...honest! Smile

Gents, thanks for the advice. I will have to pick up a copy soon. From
what I've read there is a Battle of Britain game coming from the same
company. Googling around it seems like that has been in the "real soon
now" stage for a couple of years - is there any firm idea of when it will
actually appear?

Thanks again.


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:41 pm
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If your luck is like mine it will come out two weeks after you buy IL2
1946... Wink

>On 3 Sep 2009 20:10:36 +0000, "Angus Manwaring" wrote:
>Gents, thanks for the advice. I will have to pick up a copy soon. From
>what I've read there is a Battle of Britain game coming from the same
>company. Googling around it seems like that has been in the "real soon
>now" stage for a couple of years - is there any firm idea of when it will
>actually appear?
>
>Thanks again.
>
>
> All the best,
> Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)
>
>I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:25 am
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LOL!

Current estimates are early next year but anyones guess how accurate that is


"GaryR" wrote in message

> If your luck is like mine it will come out two weeks after you buy IL2
> 1946... Wink
>
>>On 3 Sep 2009 20:10:36 +0000, "Angus Manwaring"
>> wrote:
>>Gents, thanks for the advice. I will have to pick up a copy soon. From
>>what I've read there is a Battle of Britain game coming from the same
>>company. Googling around it seems like that has been in the "real soon
>>now" stage for a couple of years - is there any firm idea of when it will
>>actually appear?
>>
>>Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>> Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove
>> ANTISPEM)
>>
>>I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
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>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:25 am
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On 03-Sep-09 21:41:06, GaryR said
>If your luck is like mine it will come out two weeks after you buy IL2
>1946... Wink


I don't really mind that - I'd probably wait a bit before buying it
anyway, but I've been on holiday here in the UK for the last week, and not
seen a copy of Il 2 Sturmanov 1946 anywahere - now that I've decided to
buy it. Typical! Smile







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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:25 am
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angus RemoveThis @angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk (Angus Manwaring) wrote:

> I've been on holiday here in the UK for the last week, and not
> seen a copy of Il 2 Sturmanov 1946 anywhere

I got it a couple of weeks ago from a Playtrade seller on Play.com for about £7. It
arrived the next day (unlike the time Play's stuff usually takes).

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:02 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:25 pm
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On the 13 Sep 2009, "Angus Manwaring"
wrote:

> On 03-Sep-09 21:41:06, GaryR said
>>If your luck is like mine it will come out two weeks after you buy IL2
>>1946... Wink


> I don't really mind that - I'd probably wait a bit before buying it
> anyway, but I've been on holiday here in the UK for the last week, and not
> seen a copy of Il 2 Sturmanov 1946 anywahere - now that I've decided to
> buy it. Typical! Smile

Have you tried Game? I know I've said how I don't like them but I got
mine in a two-for deal together with Falcon 4.0 Allied Force a year or
so ago.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:25 pm
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On 14-Sep-09 19:33:24, Graham Thurlwell said
>On the 13 Sep 2009, "Angus Manwaring"
> wrote:

>> On 03-Sep-09 21:41:06, GaryR said
>>>If your luck is like mine it will come out two weeks after you buy IL2
>>>1946... Wink


>> I don't really mind that - I'd probably wait a bit before buying it
>> anyway, but I've been on holiday here in the UK for the last week, and not
>> seen a copy of Il 2 Sturmanov 1946 anywahere - now that I've decided to
>> buy it. Typical! Smile

>Have you tried Game? I know I've said how I don't like them but I got
>mine in a two-for deal together with Falcon 4.0 Allied Force a year or
>so ago.

That sounds like a tempting combination - I was a big fan of the original
Falcon games on my Miggy. Smile

I will check the Salisbury or Bristol Game this Saturday.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:25 pm
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On the 15 Sep 2009, "Angus Manwaring"
wrote:

> On 14-Sep-09 19:33:24, Graham Thurlwell said
>>On the 13 Sep 2009, "Angus Manwaring"
>> wrote:

>>> On 03-Sep-09 21:41:06, GaryR said
>>>>If your luck is like mine it will come out two weeks after you buy IL2
>>>>1946... Wink


>>> I don't really mind that - I'd probably wait a bit before buying it
>>> anyway, but I've been on holiday here in the UK for the last week, and not
>>> seen a copy of Il 2 Sturmanov 1946 anywahere - now that I've decided to
>>> buy it. Typical! Smile

>>Have you tried Game? I know I've said how I don't like them but I got
>>mine in a two-for deal together with Falcon 4.0 Allied Force a year or
>>so ago.

> That sounds like a tempting combination - I was a big fan of the original
> Falcon games on my Miggy. Smile

> I will check the Salisbury or Bristol Game this Saturday.

Not sure if the deal's still running, but I think I saw a copy of IL2
1946 in the Durham branch of Game a couple of weeks back. Note that
there are no refunds of PC titles and that they /don't/ tell you this
when you buy - or have that info in notices.

By the way, if you do the RAF Singapore campaign DON'T choose the
Hurricane - virtually all of the missions are a long way from base and
in most cases you can't do the mission without falling out of the sky
on the way back or having to try to land at an alternative friendly
airport.

Squadron mates will always try to get back to the home airport and
crash when they inevitably run out of fuel - there's no 'follow me and
land here' command.

IIRC, the Brewster Buffalo has much longer range and may be a better
choice.

HTH.

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:50 pm
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:25 pm
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On the 16 Sep 2009, Macropodid wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:59:10 +0100, Graham Thurlwell
> wrote:

>>Not sure if the deal's still running, but I think I saw a copy of IL2
>>1946 in the Durham branch of Game a couple of weeks back. Note that
>>there are no refunds of PC titles and that they /don't/ tell you this
>>when you buy - or have that info in notices.

> Can't UK residnets buy it from gog.com? It's only $10.00 USD, just
> download and play.

Probably, but I'm not on broadband at the moment and already own the
game. GOG is download-only isn't it?

I doubt the GOG version will have the extra content on the second DVD
that came with the physical version but in terms of paper
documentation there's no difference as you just got the discs.

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