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Magnate

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:25 am
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Hi All,

I've just been reading Conn Iggulden's "Emperor" series, about Julius
Caesar, and I've got a sudden hankering to play a serious bout of
world-conquering, Roman style. The game I know best is SSI's venerable
Annals of Rome, but that's really beginning to show its age now, and though
I don't mind the poor graphics it just gets a little tedious dealing with
each wave of invaders and endless rebellions. It's still good for passing
the time because the Commodore 64 version runs nicely on my phone via the
Frodo emulator - but I can conquer the known world by about 200BC and it's
downhill from there.

I have a bunch of newer games and would appreciate views about which is the
best, or whether there are any others:

1. Rome: Total War - I have actually installed this in the past, and played
it for all of about two days. It's very pretty, and I really liked the
Civ-like strategy - so much so that I turned off the tactical battles,
thereby wasting about 80% of the product. IIRC it's not quite large-scale
enough for me - I want to conquer Gaul and Britain and Syria and all that
stuff, and I think RTW doesn't quite extend that far. I did pick up the
Alexander add-on but have never tried it. Oh, and there's Barbarian Invasion
too, but not sure if I have that. Do either of the add-ons broaden the scope
of the game?

2. EU: Rome - I picked this up because I really really like Crusader Kings
and EU3, but I've never tried it. I presume it's in real time like the
others, but I could handle that. Is it fun, and does it give you an
authentic Roman empire feel?

3. Imperium Romanum - I picked this up simply because I like the setting and
it was cheap - have never played it. Is it any good?

4. CivCity: Rome - IIRC it's a good little game but again not broad enough
for what I want at the moment. Too much city building and not enough
conquest.

5. Caesar IV - likewise.

Can't think of any other Rome-themed games at the moment - grateful for any
thoughts.

I think I remember RTW allowing you to make laws in the Senate and stuff - a
nice addition to the military aspect. What I really want is a combination of
Trade Empires, Machiavelli and Civ, with equally interesting economic,
political and military sides to the game. A Rome-era version of Imperialism
would be ideal.

I'm assuming my best bet is to dive into one of the first three listed
above. All views welcome,

CC
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:43 am
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Magnate wrote:
> 4. CivCity: Rome - IIRC it's a good little game but again not broad
> enough for what I want at the moment. Too much city building and not
> enough conquest.

Civ 3 had a GREAT Roman scenario in one of its expansions. It was one
of the hardest scenarios in Civ3 and was loads of fun.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:56 pm
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"Magnate" wrote in message

>> I'm assuming my best bet is to dive into one of the first three listed
> above. All views welcome,
>
> CC

Check out matrixgames.com as they sell a few downloadable games based on the
period. Only one I ever bought from them is called Tin Soldiers: Caesar and
it is like a tabletop miniatures game. I didn't care for it as it was more
like playing chess than a realistic Roman battle.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:25 pm
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"Magnate" wrote in message

> Hi All,
>
> 1. Rome: Total War - I have actually installed this in the past, and
> played it for all of about two days. It's very pretty, and I really liked
> the Civ-like strategy - so much so that I turned off the tactical battles,
> thereby wasting about 80% of the product. IIRC it's not quite large-scale
> enough for me - I want to conquer Gaul and Britain and Syria and all that
> stuff, and I think RTW doesn't quite extend that far. I did pick up the
> Alexander add-on but have never tried it. Oh, and there's Barbarian
> Invasion too, but not sure if I have that. Do either of the add-ons
> broaden the scope of the game?
>
> 2. EU: Rome - I picked this up because I really really like Crusader Kings
> and EU3, but I've never tried it. I presume it's in real time like the
> others, but I could handle that. Is it fun, and does it give you an
> authentic Roman empire feel?
>

RTW was just too long winded for me although the battles are fun for a few
days they soon get boringly repetitive like all the Tw games and once that
happens the game doesnt have enough depth to appeal further. For me EU:Rome
would almost certainly be the kind of game for you if you like grand
strategy above individual battles. And its got quite a bit of depth
particularly with the new expansion added which you can buy online as a
download. Im thinking of buying it myself. Didnt like EU3 but think this
Rome game has more limited scope which I think will suit me better - more
atmosphere than the very generic EU3 is what I want.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:25 pm
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Magnate wrote:

> I've just been reading Conn Iggulden's "Emperor" series, about Julius
> Caesar, and I've got a sudden hankering to play a serious bout of
> world-conquering, Roman style. The game I know best is SSI's venerable
> Annals of Rome, but that's really beginning to show its age now, and though
> I don't mind the poor graphics it just gets a little tedious dealing with
> each wave of invaders and endless rebellions. It's still good for passing
> the time because the Commodore 64 version runs nicely on my phone via the
> Frodo emulator - but I can conquer the known world by about 200BC and it's
> downhill from there.
>
> I have a bunch of newer games and would appreciate views about which is the
> best, or whether there are any others:
>
> 1. Rome: Total War - I have actually installed this in the past, and played
> it for all of about two days. It's very pretty, and I really liked the
> Civ-like strategy - so much so that I turned off the tactical battles,
> thereby wasting about 80% of the product. IIRC it's not quite large-scale
> enough for me - I want to conquer Gaul and Britain and Syria and all that
> stuff, and I think RTW doesn't quite extend that far. I did pick up the
> Alexander add-on but have never tried it. Oh, and there's Barbarian Invasion
> too, but not sure if I have that. Do either of the add-ons broaden the scope
> of the game?
>
> 2. EU: Rome - I picked this up because I really really like Crusader Kings
> and EU3, but I've never tried it. I presume it's in real time like the
> others, but I could handle that. Is it fun, and does it give you an
> authentic Roman empire feel?
>
> 3. Imperium Romanum - I picked this up simply because I like the setting and
> it was cheap - have never played it. Is it any good?
>
> 4. CivCity: Rome - IIRC it's a good little game but again not broad enough
> for what I want at the moment. Too much city building and not enough
> conquest.
>
> 5. Caesar IV - likewise.
>
> Can't think of any other Rome-themed games at the moment - grateful for any
> thoughts.
>

I've just played an Asterix game, but that's probably not the
kind of game you have in mind. But check out ...
<http://www.mobygames.com/game-group/ancient-roman-era>
Lots of games, not just strategy games though.

Note that it isn't graded very high, but if your #3 is the game
from 1996. and you say you like EU & Crusader Kings, maybe you
would like Galilea's *Pax Romana* from 2003.
<http://www.mobygames.com/game/pax-romana>
"Pax Romana is a real-time strategy game in the tradition of
Europa Universalis."


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:04 am
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On Jul 31, 5:11 am, Etal wrote:
> Magnate wrote:
> > I've just been reading Conn Iggulden's "Emperor" series, about Julius
> > Caesar, and I've got a sudden hankering to play a serious bout of
> > world-conquering, Roman style. The game I know best is SSI's venerable
> > Annals of Rome, but that's really beginning to show its age now, and though
> > I don't mind the poor graphics it just gets a little tedious dealing with
> > each wave of invaders and endless rebellions. It's still good for passing
> > the time because the Commodore 64 version runs nicely on my phone via the
> > Frodo emulator - but I can conquer the known world by about 200BC and it's
> > downhill from there.
>
> > I have a bunch of newer games and would appreciate views about which is the
> > best, or whether there are any others:
>
> > 1. Rome: Total War - I have actually installed this in the past, and played
> > it for all of about two days. It's very pretty, and I really liked the
> > Civ-like strategy - so much so that I turned off the tactical battles,
> > thereby wasting about 80% of the product. IIRC it's not quite large-scale
> > enough for me - I want to conquer Gaul and Britain and Syria and all that
> > stuff, and I think RTW doesn't quite extend that far. I did pick up the
> > Alexander add-on but have never tried it. Oh, and there's Barbarian Invasion
> > too, but not sure if I have that. Do either of the add-ons broaden the scope
> > of the game?
>
> > 2. EU: Rome - I picked this up because I really really like Crusader Kings
> > and EU3, but I've never tried it. I presume it's in real time like the
> > others, but I could handle that. Is it fun, and does it give you an
> > authentic Roman empire feel?
>
> > 3. Imperium Romanum - I picked this up simply because I like the setting and
> > it was cheap - have never played it. Is it any good?
>
> > 4. CivCity: Rome - IIRC it's a good little game but again not broad enough
> > for what I want at the moment. Too much city building and not enough
> > conquest.
>
> > 5. Caesar IV - likewise.
>
> > Can't think of any other Rome-themed games at the moment - grateful for any
> > thoughts.
>
> I've just played an Asterix game, but that's probably not the
> kind of game you have in mind. But check out ...
> <http://www.mobygames.com/game-group/ancient-roman-era>
> Lots of games, not just strategy games though.
>
> Note that it isn't graded very high, but if your #3 is the game
> from 1996. and you say you like EU & Crusader Kings, maybe you
> would like Galilea's *Pax Romana* from 2003.
> <http://www.mobygames.com/game/pax-romana>
> "Pax Romana is a real-time strategy game in the tradition of
> Europa Universalis."
>
> --
> Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.
>
>      Please followup in the newsgroup.
>      E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

Hi duds,
Check this out and then continue debating:
http://kfgd63-sphinx.blogspot.com/
Bye
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Sheldon England

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:24 am
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Karl Foster wrote:
>
> Hi duds,

He calls us "duds" then wants us to visit his blog.

I'm offended. :p


- Sheldon
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Peter Huebner

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:25 pm
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In article ,
sheldonengland RemoveThis @netscape.net says...
> Karl Foster wrote:
> >
> > Hi duds,
>
> He calls us "duds" then wants us to visit his blog.
>
> I'm offended. :p
>
>
> - Sheldon
>

Nym-shifting, too: Karl Foster == kfgd63.

bozo bin, I say.

-Peter
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Sheldon England

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:44 pm
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Nats wrote:
>
> Magnate wrote:
>
>> 2. EU: Rome - I picked this up because I really really like Crusader
>> Kings and EU3, but I've never tried it. I presume it's in real time
>> like the others, but I could handle that. Is it fun, and does it give
>> you an authentic Roman empire feel?
>
> For me EU:Rome would almost certainly be the kind of game for you if you
> like grand strategy above individual battles. And its got quite a bit of
> depth particularly with the new expansion added which you can buy online
> as a download. Im thinking of buying it myself. Didnt like EU3 but think
> this Rome game has more limited scope which I think will suit me better
> - more atmosphere than the very generic EU3 is what I want.

Oh good lord! I picked up EU Rome Gold (includes Vae Victus) last
weekend. It was a fairly quick install and the CD is not required to play.

I have played many, many strategy games of this kind from the old Avalon
Hill days up to and including Rome - Total War and Civilization and so
on, though I have not ever before played Europa Universalis. I figured
"How hard can it be to learn this game?" I figured wrong!

I went through all the Tutorials. They are *NOT* tutorials ... they are
simply a tour of the interface screens with no actual instruction on how
to play. They also have a lot of typos and outright errors (refer to
left side of screen when they really mean right, etc.).

I am thinking the game must be from the late 1990s based on the
interface and lack of opening movie or pizazz and am surprised to learn
it is fairly recent. Ah well ... I don't need glitz if the game-play is
good.

So I fire the game up with a new campaign ... and I'm looking at stuff
.... and I'm looking at stuff. Not a clue. So I exit and move along to
something else.

Later I am in a gaming mood so I fire it up and try again. And I'm
looking at stuff ... I see an army so I try to move it. It doesn't seem
to move. So I'm looking at stuff ... and I'm looking at stuff ... then I
give up and quit and play something else.

This happened five or six times. Eventually I figured out that my army
doesn't move right away. When it does finally move it clears out the
defenders in Tarentum and I am immediately attacked in my starting
provinces.

Then I remembered that inside my CD-ROM case was mention of a Strategy
Guide PDF I could download so I do so. I start reading ... I get about
four pages in and remember why I hate reading on the screen so I just
give up.

Maybe EU Rome is a great game. I don't have the patience to learn it by
trial and error. Perhaps one day I will print the 70 page strategy guide
and figure it out.

$40.00 ... flush. IMO.


- Sheldon
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:57 am
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Sheldon England wrote:
>I have played many, many strategy games of this kind from the old Avalon
>Hill days up to and including Rome - Total War and Civilization and so
>on, though I have not ever before played Europa Universalis. I figured
>"How hard can it be to learn this game?" I figured wrong!

Yah, I've never played Europa Universalis: Rome, but the EU series isn't
really strategy game of the same kind as the other games you mentioned.
They're much grander, much more difficult, and not even partly turn-based.

>Then I remembered that inside my CD-ROM case was mention of a Strategy
>Guide PDF I could download so I do so. I start reading ... I get about
>four pages in and remember why I hate reading on the screen so I just
>give up.

Well, it's just not game you can expect to play without reading the
manual first. If it didn't come a printed one, though, that sucks.

>$40.00 ... flush. IMO.

Ouch. The recently released "Gold" version, which includes the expansion,
is only $25 Canadian. For $40 I'd definately expect a printed manual.

Maybe you could try asking for advice here on how to play the game.
If you do try again, see if you can find a simpler scenerio or an easier
power to play.

Ross Ridge

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:49 pm
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Ross Ridge wrote:
>
> Yah, I've never played Europa Universalis: Rome, but the EU series isn't
> really strategy game of the same kind as the other games you mentioned.
> They're much grander, much more difficult, and not even partly turn-based.

EU: Rome looks precisely like the sort of game that I could totally get
into. My favourite era ... obsessive-compulsive level of detail and
micromanagement.


> Well, it's just not game you can expect to play without reading the
> manual first.

Indeed! I sure tried. I suppose my previous post sounded a bit whiney.


> If it didn't come a printed one, though, that sucks.

No printed manual either. It was a PDF that wasn't even installed with
the game. I had to dig around on the CD for it. It seems to cover the
same interface details as the in game tutorials. "On the trade screen
are the items that you are trading blah blah blah ..."


>> $40.00 ... flush. IMO.
>
> Ouch. The recently released "Gold" version, which includes the expansion,
> is only $25 Canadian. For $40 I'd definately expect a printed manual.

Dang. Impulse buying will be the death of me. :p


> Maybe you could try asking for advice here on how to play the game.
> If you do try again, see if you can find a simpler scenerio or an easier
> power to play.

Yeah. Page three of the strategy guide recommends giving Macedonia a try
before tackling Rome. I guess I'll just read the guide on screen in bits
until I feel I have a better understanding of the basics.

I have been spoiled by pretty much every other game having a "getting
started" in-game tutorial. I don't need a basic set up plan for every
possibility as there are so many possibilities. I was just hoping for a
"starting your first empire" summary.

Thanks for your reply. I will try to be less whiney and more like an
emperor. Very Happy


- Sheldon
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:51 am
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Sheldon England wrote:
>Thanks for your reply. I will try to be less whiney and more like an
>emperor. Very Happy

Well, Paradox's games aren't the most user-friendly, and it does sound
like they expected players to have played their previous games, so I
don't think your complaints unwarranted. I remember, like a lot of people
did, having trouble figuring how to load armies on to ships when playing
the original Europa Universalis. It took a while to master the game.
First it was mastering basics like that, then getting a handle on combat,
then figuring out how other countries react, then how to manage rebelions,
etc... Playing a few throw away games where you're just doing stuff to
see what happens and not worrying much about winning might help.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:25 pm
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"Sheldon England" wrote in message

> Ross Ridge wrote:
>>
>> Yah, I've never played Europa Universalis: Rome, but the EU series isn't
>> really strategy game of the same kind as the other games you mentioned.
>> They're much grander, much more difficult, and not even partly
>> turn-based.
>
> EU: Rome looks precisely like the sort of game that I could totally get
> into. My favourite era ... obsessive-compulsive level of detail and
> micromanagement.
>
>
>> Well, it's just not game you can expect to play without reading the
>> manual first.
>
> Indeed! I sure tried. I suppose my previous post sounded a bit whiney.

Well I picked the game up immediately but then I had played HOI2 before that
and tried EU3 lately as well. So I know the basics of the movement etc. And
yes I did get a printed manual with HOI2 and EU3 otherwise I wouldnt have
bothered to read them as I too hate reading manuals on the screen. I have to
say EU Rome is the best strategy game I have played ever and I love the
graphics, the atmosphere and the gameplay. So stick with it and just mess
around for a couple of nights. Thats how I learned HOI2 really - I actually
just messed around with one of the scenarios and tried all the buttons, read
the forum posts. Same with EU3. You cant really figure out a game from a
manual anyway and I actually enjoy figuring things out for myself. Sure you
dont know everything straight away but then thats half of the fun. So mess
around, dont take it seriously and have a blast.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:26 pm
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Ross Ridge wrote:
> Playing a few throw away games where you're just doing stuff to
> see what happens and not worrying much about winning might help.

This is good advice. I will try a few sessions to see what damage I can
do ... but I'll be back with questions!


Nats wrote:
>
> So stick with it and just mess around for a couple of nights.

Yeah ... I usually tinker with new programs/games first to see what is
what and only look at manuals if I can't figure something out (which is
fairly rare). This is the first time I have been shut down.

I will keep at it. The blood of my enemies will eventually flow.

Thanks for your replies.


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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:07 am
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:26:54 -0700, Sheldon England
blabbed:

>Ross Ridge wrote:
> > Playing a few throw away games where you're just doing stuff to
> > see what happens and not worrying much about winning might help.
>
>This is good advice. I will try a few sessions to see what damage I can
>do ... but I'll be back with questions!
>
>
>Nats wrote:
>>
>> So stick with it and just mess around for a couple of nights.
>
>Yeah ... I usually tinker with new programs/games first to see what is
>what and only look at manuals if I can't figure something out (which is
>fairly rare). This is the first time I have been shut down.
>
>I will keep at it. The blood of my enemies will eventually flow.
>
>Thanks for your replies.
>
>
> - Sheldon

Paradox forums gave me some good info that wasn't in the
manual or strat guide. Lurking around there learned me up good. I
kinda wanna go try victoria out now after seeing their forums, but I
don't even have enough time for the games I have so I'm going to
resist the urge, rome does well enough for me.

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